https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/10/25/remarkable-details-matt-gaetz-gives-details-of-backroom-machiavelli-tactics-triggered-by-kevin-mccarthy-during-house-gop-conference/

GREAT STUFF, thanks sundance!

Also there is a great little 13 minute vid attached to that article that is well worth hearing.  It's Matt Gaetz talking to Steve Bannon.  LOTS of details there you won't hear anywhere else.  The more I learn the more I understand about why I wasn't a big fan of McCarthy to start with.  Mike Johnson is going to be perfect for this job.